Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-43782881-20200803074517/@comment-43782881-20200803074552

'''I really have tried to avoid these discussions, but they’re everywhere in the discussion threads. Even threads that are seemingly unrelated, suddenly there’s a “boy, feminists sure would hate this!” type comment. Feminists are not universally opposed to porn. One of its many goals is to increase protections and lessen discrimination for sex workers, as radical feminists push to ban pornographic content from any platform. '''

'''While it’s worth mentioning that radical feminists are pretty hateful towards men, I also think about the harm they do to other women. Spreading lies and aggression against trans women, sex workers, as I already mentioned, and even women of color, as many of the conceptions that people have about “femininity” are specific to white women. '''

'''I will grant there are many issues with feminism. You know, one thought I’ve started to hear about is the criticism of the body positivity movement, which was supposed to be “girls and women are held to unreasonable standards of beauty and should be valued for who they are as people” and has changed to an attempt to make every type of body or feature beautiful. '''

'''But I value a lot of the things feminism has brought to my attention. I think about the time I was with some people and one of the other men my age said quietly to me, “look at the butt on that”, pointing to a few women across the street. Super nice guy, wouldn’t hurt a fly. But I just tried to explain to him how demeaning and gross that was, and how I didn’t like being engaged in his comments about another woman. I think about these prolific, despicable figures in the public eye who are spewing the nastiest or inaccurate rhetoric about women, like Jordan Peterson. Men who are better, average people who have never intentionally tried to take advantage of a woman, and who may feel hurt or insulted by feminists, well, that’s understandable. If you’ve gone your whole life feeling like you’re a good person and now you’re hearing people talk about how many awful things men do, sure you might be upset or angry. '''

'''But women are not making these things up, they’re talking about their experiences. And what many men can do is listen to those experiences, try to understand what it’s like, and resolve to pay more attention to their behavior, and other men around them. '''

'''Even though this is like 2 pages, I still have thousands of words and thoughts about things that men do or problems that women deal with. It’s an enormous topic. To tie it into the MGE, I like this site. It’s pretty damn sexy. But you know, I’m not big on the idea that monsters are all rapists, which is why I headcanon away parts of the canon that I don’t like. On a side note I was digging through old pages of the WWYD board and like over a year ago I found this thread, it was like What would you do if you were a MGTOW in the mge and someone had the audacity to call the monster girl encyclopedia “gynocentric”. The only reason that monster girls have vaginas is so they can pleasure men. Like you could not find a less “gynocentric” setting, more of a male fantasy, than the MGE. '''

'''My only hope from this thread is maybe try to express how I feel, that these assertions of man hating feminists are inaccurate and unfair. Maybe someone even has a question, and we could continue this discussion that I’ve tried to make thoughtful and considerate. There’s a lot of great writers and generally thoughtful people. But I dare to believe they are more thoughtful than this. '''