User blog:Saikou The Lewd King/MGE Power scale

This blog is for fun, and absolutely not official. Just me trying to place most characters into a powerscale to see how powerful they are to eachothers. Note that this is just through power from Magic or just Physical strength, and not related to Rank or Royality, although Rank can be used to determine a character's strength.

Sub-Human Tier
This mostly treats weakened Monsters or anything that is below a human in strength. And by human I mean a normal human, not a hero or anything.


 * Vampire under sunlight
 * Bubble Slime
 * Fransisca Mistel Lescatie (Human)
 * Most human children

Human Tier
This one groups any monsters that could be on part with a human instead of just overpowering them. They are pretty rare but there are some of them. It also obviously treats humans.


 * Skeleton (They can apparently be dealt with using enough force)
 * Zombie
 * Human
 * Elt (Human)
 * Wandering Scholar

Average Monster Tier
The average monsters in strength. All of them can directly overpower a human in one way or another. One of the most common and widespread category.


 * Akaname


 * Alice
 * Alp
 * Alraune
 * Amazoness
 * Ant Arachne
 * Arachne
 * Barometz
 * Black Harpy
 * Cancer
 * Centaur
 * Charybdis
 * Cheshire Cat
 * Chochin-Obake
 * Cockatrice
 * Dark Elf
 * Dark Priest
 * Devil
 * Devil Bug
 * Doppelganger
 * Dormouse
 * Dullahan
 * Dwarf
 * Elf
 * Fairy
 * Flow Kelp
 * Gargoyle
 * Ghost
 * Ghoul
 * Giant Ant
 * Giant Slug
 * Goblin
 * Golem
 * Grizzly
 * Gyoubu Danuki
 * Hakutaku
 * Harpy
 * Hinezumi
 * Hobgoblin
 * Honey Bee
 * Hornet
 * Humpty Egg
 * Imp
 * Jinko
 * Jinn of the Jar
 * Jorou-Gumo
 * Jubjub
 * Kakuen
 * Kappa
 * Karakasa-Obake
 * Kejourou
 * Kesaran Pasaran
 * Kikimora
 * Kobold
 * Kunoichi
 * Lamia
 * Large Mouse
 * Lava Golem
 * Leanan Sidhe
 * Lesser Succubus
 * Liliraune
 * Living Doll
 * Lizardman
 * Mad Hatter
 * Mandragora
 * Manticore
 * Mantis
 * March Hare
 * Matango
 * Mermaid
 * Merrow
 * Mimic
 * Mothman
 * Mucus Toad
 * Mummy
 * Nereid
 * Nureonago
 * Orc
 * Parasite Slime / Slime Carrier
 * Pixie
 * Red Slime
 * Ren Xiongmao
 * Roper
 * Sahuagin
 * Satyros
 * Scylla
 * Sea Slime
 * Selkie
 * Siren
 * Slime
 * Soldier Beetle
 * Tentacle
 * Vamp Mosquito
 * Wendigo
 * Werebat
 * Werecat
 * Wererabbit
 * Weresheep
 * Will-o-the-Wisp
 * Yeti
 * Weakest Incubus

Above Average Monster Tier
These characters are somewhat above normal monsters, not highly so but still above them.


 * Angel (Possibly a tad higher, since they are much higher than an average monsters but unlikely to be on part with a Valkyrie)
 * Anubis
 * Apsara
 * Basilisk
 * Bicorn
 * Blue Oni
 * Cait Sith
 * Crow Tengu
 * Cu Sith
 * Dark Angel (Same as Angel)
 * Dark Slime
 * Dryad
 * Familiar
 * Gandharva
 * Girtablilu
 * Glacies
 * Gnome
 * Hellhound
 * Holstaur (Doesn't seem to be weaker than a Minotaur)
 * Houri
 * Ignis
 * Jiangshi
 * Khepri (This is for an individual, a group could gather enough Demonic Energy to create a being on part with a Pharaoh)
 * Kitsune-bi
 * Kitsune-tsuki
 * Kunoichi
 * Medusa
 * Mindflayer
 * Minotaur
 * Nekomata
 * Nightmare
 * Ogre
 * Oomukade
 * Queen Slime
 * Raiju
 * Red Oni
 * Salamander
 * Sandworm
 * Sea Bishop
 * Shirohebi
 * Shoggoth (Mostly placed there due to their link with the Demons of Chaos)
 * Sphinx
 * Sylph
 * Thunderbird
 * Troll
 * Undine
 * Unicorn
 * Ushi-Oni
 * Werewolf (A group of them managed to defeat Primera despite the huge power gap, although those were more powerful due to Druella)
 * Witch
 * Yuki-Onna
 * Weaker heroes
 * Generic Angels
 * Average Incubus

High Tier
Very powerful monsters, not quite on the level of gods yet, but still extremely powerful. Also countains most heroes. The strongest of them are possibly able to create a very small Spirit Realm.


 * Arch Imp
 * Beelzebub
 * Cupid
 * Cyclops (Likely in the God tiers, as they used to be divinities, and they managed to partially resist the Demon Lord, like Dragons did)
 * Dark Matter
 * Dark Valkyrie
 * Demon
 * Dhampir
 * Gazer
 * Lich
 * Succubus (Despite being seemingly the "default" kind of monster, they actually have been described as being extremely powerful)
 * Titania
 * Valkyrie
 * Vampire
 * Wilmarina (Human)
 * Mimiru (Human)
 * Mersé (Human)
 * Primera (Human/Elf)
 * Sasha (Human)
 * Koyoi (Human)
 * Francisca (Monster) (She was very weak before, and we have no real indication of her being higher than this)
 * Sasha (Monster) (Likely higher)
 * Primera (Monster) (Likely higher)
 * Most heroes
 * Strong Incubus

Low God Tier
Lesser gods and even more powerful monsters than before, everyone in this tier and above should be able to create a moderataly large Spirit Realm.


 * Nine-tailed Inari
 * Nine-tailed Youko
 * Pharaoh
 * Apophis
 * Koyoi (Monster)
 * Bastet
 * Bacchus
 * Presumably most lowers gods
 * Very strong Incubus

Mid God Tier
This coutains most gods and very very strong monsters, those that even a Lilim has difficulties creating. Should also be able to create even larger Spirit Realms.


 * Baphomet
 * Dragon
 * Echidna
 * Ryu
 * Wurm
 * Wyvern
 * Mersé (Monster)
 * Wilmarina (Monster)
 * Eros
 * Mimiru (Fallen Brides only, which is non-canon. She defeated a Echidna and fought a Baphomet to a standstill here)
 * Wilmarina (Fallen Brides only, which is non-canon. Stronger than Mimiru)
 * Most gods

High God Tier
This contains the most powerful normal gods and normal monsters, the top of the top. They are the creators of Country-sized Spirit Realms.


 * Lilim
 * Poseidon
 * Fallen God
 * Druella
 * Ares
 * Queen of Hearts
 * The most powerful gods

Outer God Tier
These beings are even beyond the gods, although it is unknown if they are beyond the Chief God or otherwise.


 * Demons of chaos

Dominant Tier
This one is for the top beings currently in control of the world. No one can currently match them, and they are struggling for the power of the world. All of them have control over the whole Universe, although usually only one part of it.


 * Demon Lord
 * Demon Lord's husband
 * Chief God
 * Any Lilim potentially

Ultimate Tier
As of now, this is the highest tier. No one has ever surpassed this, and it may remains so for a long time. There is absolutely no contest as of now.


 * Original Chief God


 * Potentially the Demon Lord, her husband and her daughters

Feats
There are some demonstration of power through the series. Although not all monsters have some, the few that exists should be able to be shared to others monsters of their level, here is some of them.

Charybdis's whirlool
The Charybdis can creates a whirlpools capable of dragging ships to the bottom of the seas. Sailing Ships in that time must have weighted around 10881862 kg. Now, considering that the bottom of the sea is about 2000 meters deep and that it would take around 30 seconds for a ship to realistically reach the bottom without anyone drowning. It would mean the ship is falling at a speed of 66 meters per seconds. For this to happen, one would need 23 700 695 436 joules of energy, which is enough to destroy a large building btw.

Note that since Scylla can catch up to and likely kidnap men being sucked in, it likely means that they can move around as fast as the falling ship, 66 meters per seconds.

This apply to:


 * Most monsters in Average Monsters Tier


 * Above Average Tier


 * And everything above it.

Dark Matter's Demon Realm creation
According to the profiles, a Dark Matter can releases so much energy that she can convert whole lands into Demon Realms. Now according to another page, Demon Realms can range in size from a Town to a whole state. The usage of the word "Land" makes me think the latter is more likely, but let's count in both.

Now it's a bit impossible to calculate how much energy is required to reality warp an entire region like that, so instead let's use the require energy to level a town or a country.

To level a town, the energy require is about that of 24 267 200 000 000 joules.

To level a country however, you need 29 288 000 000 000 000 000 000 joules. Woah.

This apply to:


 * High Tier


 * Anything above that

Poseidon's ocean manipulation
According to WoG, Poseidon has control over all the world's seas, excluding the very bottom since lol chaos demon. There is more water than earth on the surface, for those who don't know btw, so manipulating all the seas would be higher than manipulating all the surface's continent. Doing this would require 4 184 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 joules of energy.

This apply to:


 * High God Tier


 * And beyond

Spirit Realm creation
Now this one is extremely important, there is a reason I kept mentioning Spirit Realms in the tier list.

Although creating a country-sized realm wouldn't seem that much different from leveling a country, the fact that it is a completely seperate dimension makes all the difference. As a note, I will stop using the word "dimension" to refer as a world and instead uses it as the real scientific definition (3D, 4D etc.)

Well first of all, let's determine how higher dimensions would interect with ours. As you may know, the mass of something is calculated using all of its 3 dimensions. Length X Height X Depth. However, if any of those values are 0, then the whole result becomes 0 too. 0 mass. That's what happens with 2 dimensional object. They lack a dimension we have, which result in 0 mass. And as you may also know, the physical energy created by a moving object is via both speed and mass. Thus, if it has no mass, no matter how fast it goes, it will never produces any energy. Thus a 2 dimensional object cannot hurt us.

However, said object still possess some form of mass and some form of energy, just a lower dimensional one, which is, as previously proved, is 0 to us. So, any 3D energy applied to it would seems like infinite energy applied to it, which would lead to its destruction.

The same process goes for 3D to 4D. We have 0 mass and produces 0 energy to them, but to us, they produce infinite energy and possess infinite mass. So technically speaking, a 4D being would be completely and infinitely above us, mere 3D mortals. Thus, someone capable of destructing or creating a 4D object would need infinite power to do so. At least infinite on our perspective. How would this relate to MGE, you would tell me? Well...

The universe itself is a 4 dimensional object. Not its content like us or a simple rock, but the fabric of the universe itself is 4D. 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension to be precise. As it has all the 3 basics spatial ones and the time that we live in. So, destroying/creating not just the content, but the space-time continuum of a universe requires infinite energy. After all, you do have to create/destroy the universe at each point in time, at the plank-instant.

That's where the Spirit Realms comes in. Even though they are tiny compared to our Universe, one must consider that they likely aren't simple pocket universe. They have been repeadtly refered as being in seperate "Dimensions". They are also apparently extremely hard to create. Even a building-size one is very hard to make, despite lower monsters being able to create such pocket dimension and capable of destroying a building with ease.

Not only that but Pandemonium has a time that has been modified by the Fallen God, with the page specially mentioning "the space time is warped" implying it possess its own space time.

As previously mentioned, creating a space-time continuum requires infinite energy, so anyone capable of creating a spirit realm, no matter its size, would have infinite energy.

∞ Joules.

Note that this is all actual theorical physics, not just shit I made up on the spot.

This apply to:


 * Dominant Tier


 * Outer God Tier


 * High God Tier


 * Mid God Tier


 * Presumably Low God Tier


 * Possibly the strongests of High Tier

Original Chief God's Universe creation
Not much to do here, but eh. She created the Universe, same jazz as the Spirit Realm thing, except it is a whole Universe this time.

∞ Joules. This apply to:


 * Ultimate Tier

Wurm's forest destruction
It is stated in her profile that she would mow down all the trees in a surrounding forest. Let's assume a single tree possess a volume of 250 m3.

Breaking solid matters into big pieces is 8 joules per Cubic Centimeters, so doing that to a tree is 2 000 000 000 joules of energy.

Now let's assume that a forest has the area of New York and that there is a tree each 2 m2. So, New York is 1 214 m2. So, this is 607 trees. 2 000 000 000 X 607 is 1 214 000 000 000. This is enough to destroy multiple city blocks.

Since most people on her level posses much higher feats this is pretty pointless.

This apply to:


 * Mid God Tier


 * And above

Raiju's lighting speed
According to her profile, she appears along Thunder and clad in lighting. This somewhat imply they comes on earth as lighting, thus are probably the same speed as lighting. This is only speculation, so this one isn't as likely as others.

Lighting goes at 343000 meters per second.

The average women weights about 75 kg or something.

This gives out 4411837500000 Joules. Enough to break a small town.

This apply to:


 * Above Average Monsters Tier


 * Above Above Average


 * Likely anyone capable of keeping up with a  Raiju or dodging a Thunderbird's attack

Dark Elementals' nature manipulation
There isn't much feats for them about how they can manipulate the world. There is however one important feat. Earth/Fire elementals can apparently control volcanism, to for example redirect a volcano eruption. A volcano eruption of strength 5 is 24 megatons, which is 100416000000000000 Joules of energy, capable of easily wiping out a city.

This apply to:


 * Above Average Monsters Tier


 * And things above

Comparasion to our real world
So, we have values for the energy the monsters can produces. How does that compare to what OUR weapons can do? Let's find out. Also a random note, but heroes and monsters constantly trades blows with eachothers, so a monster should be able to tank the energy of another monster's Physical strength or Magical power without dying.

An average bullet can causes 1050 joules of energy, with some of the strongest being able to generate 35 000 joules. However, as previously mentioned, even an average monster can generate  23 700 695 436 joules of energy. That would mean that a monster can be  677 162 times stronger than even heavy gunfire.

A grenade however can produces 800 000 joules of energy, which is even higher, but still 29 625 times lower than that of a monster. So yes, even weak monsters could shrug off grenades to their face.

Only things like bombs could work off against those, but certainly not simple single weapons like a gun. There is a reason why Word of God says that normal humans can't do shit against monsters.

But we really know what is the strongest weapons humans can create, don't we?

That's right, the nuclear bomb. And we got A LOT of them. So, would they be able to kill a monster? Very likely. An Average and Above Average Tier monster wouldn't fare well at all against a nuke.

However, let's look at the high tier of monsters.

These one should be able to fare better wouldn't they? Well first of all, let's see the power of a nuke.

Nah, let's look at ALL the nukes in the world, detonating at the same time. This is assuming that the energy would all be given and released at the same time, which is very unlikely to happen in real life, as damage doesn't piles up physically speaking, but let's do it anyway.

According to something I found, all of the nukes together would release 418 400 000 000 000 000 000 joules of energy. That is enough to destroy an island btw.

However, compared to the  29 288 000 000 000 000 000 000 joules created by a Dark Matter, it is still 70 times smaller. So yes, a strong hero or a High Tier Monster would survive all of the nukes of the world at the same time. Consider that I used minimum for the Monster side and maximum for the human side here.

So yeah, the unlikely scenario of humans from our world coming in and helping the Order and stomp the monsters isn't very realistic. The Order is far better off with their own heroes and God blessing than our technology. Not that the Demon Lord wouldn't eventually gets her hand on said technology anyway.

Special abilities or "hax"
Some monsters have abilities that doesn't really require a lot of energy to produce, but are useful in battle, even against opponent stronger than them. They are commonly called "hax" as they bypass the need to have enough magical/physical power to harm a very durable opponent.

Medusa's Petrification
As stated in her profile, a Medusa can instantly petrify anyone with a simple glare. It doesn't require contact or anything, nor does it seems to have a cool down or anything, so she could easily wipe out an entire group just by staring at them. There is very little way to combat this, as both side need sight to see. It is unknown if any material like glass water or any other transparent material could counter this, or if the effect includes camera or pictures. In any case, they can easily defeat any opponent this way, especially considering that they usually hold back to not kill anyone.

Demon Realm Silver
Demon Realm Silver is one of the most widespread material in the MGE army. As most know, it doesn't hurt the physical body and actually hurts the magical energy of an opponent. This would mean that having enough power to directly damage an opponent's body isn't needed with these weapons, as damaging the spirit of someone damage them more deeply than just normal attacks.

Wight's Spirit Energy manipulation
Another one using spirit energy. Wight can apparently saps one's spirit energy simply by touching them. Although the usage of the ability itself is less effective than Medusa's, manipulating one's spirit energy would be extremely effective against most opponent, as you would be able to induce death easily, if it wasn't for the Wight's unwillingless to kill.

Monsterization
===Now this one will be big, as it is related to other kinds of hax too. As previously mentioned, affecting one's spiritual energy doesn't require to have enough magical power to hurt the opponent. Monsterization works the same way, except it affect one's mind too. Yeah I know the whole jazz about it not being mind control, but that's because said monsters doesn't really care about having any kind of control with the women/man they monsterize. Beside, once monsterized, they would refuses to fight further. Just takes a look at Druella, her minions obeys her nearly as much as they do with their husband, because she filled them with her own DE.===

One might think it is impratical in battle, but remember that even still non-physical DE can turn a human monster/incubi in seconds, so any form of physical DE like with a Lilim, Kherpi or Dark Matter and the mindfuck will happen nearly instantly. This is especially dangerous with the Dark Matter, as most of their body is DE, so any physical contact with them will screw you over. But what can a Lilim, a being that control DE freely, can do with it? Let's see...

Demonic Energy Manipulation
Lilim can manipulates Demonic Energy freely, be it in the air or in someone. Now, since we know that someone can be monsterized by a simple DE touch, let's see what a Lilim could do to someone in this position.

Change their mind: DE have shown multiple time the ability to change one's mind, either to make them more shy or less shy, or to match the ideals and personality of someone. It would be easy to just stops an opponent's hostility and makes them harmless via this. Also, it mentions that DE control the metaphysical make up of a monster. People with plain ol' resistence to mind manipulation would likely be still modified, as it modifiy them on a conceptual level.

Change their species and body: A Lilim can also modify one's body and species to match their own mood or otherwise. This could be used to weaken's an opponent defense, by making them a lower kind of monsters, or to add a weakness to something nearby. Thus, stronger opponent could be reduced to a level where they wouldn't be a problem anymore.

Note that this manipulation could be used on a Lilim's own body. DE can affect the user's body by obeying their subconscious desires, but a Lilim could do this at will and without needing to follow her desires doing it.

This mean she could apply all the changes that DE can do in general at will, thus she could regenerate lost limbs, likely changes her size or makes her body more durable etc.

Also note that a Lilim posses the DE of all the monsters in the world. Theorically, a Lilim would thus be able to modify her own body to match any of the monster's. Which means that all of the abilities described there (Except the ones from Monsters who do not obey the demon lord like Mindflayer) would also apply to a Lilim. Daamn.

Charm
This one is also highly important. Lilims can charms a man simply with their sheer beauty. It doesn't even require her to activate anything, just seeing her would destroy a man's ability to fight. This makes fighting one incredibly difficult. One would need to be homosexual or female to fight her off.

Note that all of this is passive, thus by action she would have even stronger charms that could charm girls or gay men.

As mentioned before, it ain't mind attacking, just the Lilim being so hawt she charms people. Mind resistence likely wouldn't block it.

Basilisk's Venom
This one is especially OP in its application. The Basilisk only needs to sees someone to apply this instantly on her target. It uses their own Spirit Energy to destroy them from the inside (Lewdly), leaving them open to monsterization easily. Also apply to Lilims.