Talk:Alp/@comment-26097222-20150211124621/@comment-26097222-20150216205018

To the Anon above me -- We don't have enough data for a "nope". Party -- *snicker*. Poor jello cup. Seriously though, while you're right about the painting, you're not completely right. There's a missing requirement -- animus. Beastiality is a good example of this. Many people are capable of thinking "that animal is cute" -- they find it attractive but the degree of attraction is well below the sexuality threshold. A thankfully rare few (this is one of my squicks) exceed the threshold and consider, say, goats to be valid 'targets'. They might like a painting of goats, they might even react to it as a form of pornography, but they don't have a desire to stick anything into the painting because they know the painting is not a goat. One of the things charm magic does in MGE is elevate a latent attraction into an active one, or even to a berserker state that is out of conscious control. While KC says a monster won't force someone who is truly disgusted, psychology says everybody is a mess, some just control it better. In many cases, feeling disgust is a reaction to recognizing you have a desire you don't want and rejecting it. Take loli for example. I am not a lolicon -- I have the slider bar as anyone who feels an emotional tie to children does, but mine is solidly in the nurture/protect portion of the scale. Someone with that bar a bit higher might still reject taking sexual action on it, and be as disgusted as I am at the idea, but they also have the bar. An active pedophile has the bar raised to a level that exceeds their self-control. But someone who totally lacks that bar is probably not fit to be around children. In a species that has toggle switches, the effects of charm magic is at worst an involuntary uncloseting. But humans have slider bars instead of toggle switches. Depending on how powerful the charm magic is, it might actually make someone do someing they are truly opposed to, because a lot of the sliders we have are only negative traits when raised to the extreme. There are also complex interactions between different sliders -- as a very simplified example, take two people, give them identical slider settings except one has no empathy and the other is above average. Result: one is a loving husband who is VERY good in bed and the other is a sociopathic serial rapist. Going back to that goat fancier for example, if you lowered his attraction slider down to a more moderate level, he'd be a very skilled goat herder who treats his livestock very well -- without the bar entirely he'd get arrested for animal cruelty.