Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32301387-20170627200400/@comment-29564364-20170702040209

"ah, magnificent Alpha. I see.... then it would require a remote switch..." What will the switch be made of? Unless it's made of water, fire or wind, Earth powers can still affect it. If it's made of water, fire or wind, we just need to add elementals to the covenanter. Besides, the arrows, chains and door used to confine her are still made of wood and metal.

"Also, no need to be rude of the "two brain cells" bit, that trick has worked before throughout history." It wasn't intended to be rude. It's just that the hostage tactic has such a huge and obvious flaw that I'm baffled that people fell for it throughout history and are still doing today. The only reason it's been effective is because the people it's been used against were stupid.

"Not all men can be blessed..." I know, I was just giving an example.

"I would love it if the D.L. could be talked down with out force." And she can. It's the Chief God who can't. The Demon Lord wants a happy ending for everyone, regardless of how it's achieved (as long as it doesn't involve violence). The Chied God just wants to see humans and monsters kill each other until the end of time. She is the antagonist and the source of the problem. After all, she's the one maintaining the settings that make prevent all progress.

"But, its as you say. It is her dream. She wont give it up willingly." Her dream is not to wipeout "pure" humanity, her dream is a world where human and monsters can coexist peacefully and assimilating humanity is just the way she came up with to achieve it. I'm not denying her her dream, I'm just saying "Hey, not everyone is happy with your methods, so here's an alternative that will lead to the same peaceful coexistence, without having to monsterize/incubize every human."

"And, I too have a dream. One where Pure humanity can still exist, uncorupted by D.E. Where we are neither slaves to our carnel desires, nor pawns to a god. I would like it if mamono respected such a dream. a middle ground. some measures to prevent the complete loss of pure humanity, whilst still allowing mamono- human relations. A world where mankind is truly free. I demand such freedom. Anyone who offers less is my enemy." I don't offer less, I offer an alternative mean to reach that conclusion that doesn't involve humans taking actions against monsters and vice versa, but rather, both allying against the true enemy: the Chief God.

"My point being, if the demon lord wont compremise, [...]" How did you come to the conclusion that she won't? Have you ever even tried? You can't know if you haven't tried.

"[...] and druella... she wont stop. they both need to be brought to heel. Either at the table, or the battlefield. I would prefer to save lives rather than take them." I'm sure she would stop once peaceful coexistence is achieved and if she doesn't, law enforcement will. Heck, given her power, she'd probably be a great ally during the revolt against the Chief God, and even more so for her parents.

And you still haven't answered: " How would you feel if a member of your family was held hostage in absolutely horrible conditions in exchange of the dream that (you believe) will make the world a better place for everyone on which you've worked all your life?"