Talk:Druella/@comment-27595114-20150729023448/@comment-25930818-20150807185400

> ''The official word is negative of fact ("it is not brainwhaing"), what kind of existence uyou need to prove the non-existence? I say if you want to prove that it's brainwashing, you're one who have to find evidence that it is brainwashing.''

Nice try, but trying to invert the burden of proof doesn't actually accomplish anything with regards to solving the disagreement. We (well, me, I can't literally speak for Altom but I seem to be on roughly the same page) think monsterization - as depicted in the behavioural and personality changes in the before/after FM girls - more closely resembles brainwashing than it does liberation. It's a question of aesthetics. Just as one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, so too one man's "She's been released from her mental shackles and hang-ups so she can finally enjoy life! Wonderful!" is another man's "She's just had her brain mushed up by an evil demoness to turn her into an inveterate nympho slut! Terrible!"

> I don't know you realize the irony here, but currently you (and presumable quite a few people who think in roughly the same way) are blindly dismiss his words with little to no evidence.

I can perhaps help you ot here by explaining why we (or at least I) am totally unaffected by this line of argument. I think you said somewhere else that you consider KC's Q&As to be the highest, most important form of canon, because they're direct answers to direct questions fielded by the author himself. I do not share this opinion. I think the Q&As are the lowest form of canon, because they're not actual MGE materials. They're just KC sort of having a chat.

And that's why you can spout "But Kenkou said it's an escapist fantasy where nothing bad or creepy ever happens" 'til you're blue in the... keyboard, it's not gonna convince someone like me or Altom. Unless it's in the books, it's not as important as something that is in the books. And since Wilmarina's doing a 180-degree evil-personality flip is in the books, that's where my argument lies.

I don't tell you this really with the intention of getting you to think the same. I tell you this with the intention of helping you realise that your frequently-deployed "Cite the Q&As" type of argument is never, ever, ever going to convince me of anything. Maybe you don't care, but I just tell you for the sake of courtesy.