Talk:Druella/@comment-12776-20150801161708/@comment-25930818-20150804155316

I would argue that all the Mist Continent monsters, Zipangu monsters, Fallen God monsters, and Chaos Demon monsters in fact ARE subordinate to the demon lord, since in each case their entire species is demonic-energy-ised, and the demon lord has magic power over demonic energy. For lilim-transform purposes the only ones that aren't "subordinate" are species for which a significant population of non-monsters exists: e.g. angels, elves, fairies, elementals. So a lilim could make a shoggoth, imo.