Thread:HoundTheDestroyer93/@comment-25808351-20191211055508/@comment-27666783-20200103181850

MediocreKnight wrote: BTR180 wrote:

Basically ypur post on the requisition page is beautiful and I could not have put it in any better words. But while you create your New Order I think that a slow and subtle reformation is needed as well. We need a two pronged approach to better serve our cause as converting an entire population to a new belief takes time and we need to protect those who think like us now. Your new order will be the offshoot that will protect the outcast and I shall commence the lengthy process of reformation that may lead to the acceptance of the new order back into the greater sphere. Agreed. Along with converting an entire population into one that incorporates dynamic and heavily enhanced humans with super attributes ''at birth. ''Incorporating this atmosphere of cooperation will be a big feat. Indeed, the New Order will be built for all who seek shelter, glad you're on board.

I'll also be interested in the wedding RP.

@everyone Also I must ask everyone for their opinion on two things.

1. ''Would you regard highly modified and enhanced superhumans from birth as humans? ''

Despite their difference in biological nature, would you classify the existence of a 'superhuman' as conceptually human? Personally, I think yes especially in regards to MGE. If all Mamono are gathered under one, basically homogenous and borderline gestalt entity, despite drastically different biological structures. The same ought to be said for humanity, I'd consider it not something to be abhorred to put a new organ, or even limb, to improve the human. Plus, the implication of Incubi and Heroes as 'still human' would assert that Humanity is something beyond the flesh.

2. How would you have a just society, or at least a just-as-possible society deal with things like Amazons?

Allow me to go out on a limb here and say that while I intend no grimderp shenanigans of any sort, I hope when one reads this they understand my implication when I say that 'It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot have both.' I say this in context of specific Mamono that would, perhaps in cases inadvertently, bring harm upon others. It would stand to reason that we do not have to be so broad-stroked one-size-fits-all. Would it not stand to reason that, excluding murder, equivalent and proportional retaliation is the way to go? eg. You would not discipline a Kobold the same way you would an Amazon. The former far less so as Kobold cannot help but secrete pheromones, and by all means would seek the welfare and wishes of other people. The latter would serve as an example for 'giving her a taste of her own medicine', as assuming that she has any agency over her own actions(Amazon seems well and trully capable of sentient thought so this would be the case), then she is responsible. Regardless of what her loins tell her.

If one would want to attribute game theory to ethics(I wouldn't because that sounds rather grotesque), it sounds a little Tit for Tatty, which can cause the issue of leading into a death spiral. But at the same time, it prevents another problem of pathological altruism. But, as this New Order is ready and willing to accept Mamono who genuinely want to help people and love humanity, this in itself is a 'Tit for Tat with forgiveness' model. We are, in itself, climbing out of the death spiral.

Again I must reiterate that I know I sound like an edgelord when I say this but I implore you to think of this through a lens that does not seek to destroy or maim Men or Mamono. Its just…

…fair. Think of the Dragon profile that has an excerpt of 'taming' her, or High Orc, or Ogre. Not intimidation for the sake of intimidation, its 'to intimidate those who intimidate others'. Some would call that 'policing'. A 'Balance of Terror' if you will, a tried and true example of deterrence theory.

I know I sound like I have made up my mind on these things but I am open to thoughts and concerns.