Talk:Alice/@comment-12776-20141009041919

I'm going to rant. Skip if you can't stand lolicon fetish at all (but then you're most likely to leave this page already)

Here's input from a person who actually adopt lolicon as his internet persona's trait. I must say, Alice is represent of specific sebgenre in lolicon fetish, its purest form (pun intend), the innocent.

For those who aren't into the fetish, you may surprise that lolicon eromanga isn't just about pedophile raping little girl. The story is at least varies as normal eromanga, but "the innocent" is what unique to loli genre (maybe shota as well, but I still can't remember it was used in straight shota, and I stay away from gay stuff).

Basically, the girl is so pure that she is completely can't be associated with sex at all. This is actually typical mindframe of people in Victorian England...when Alice in Wonderland was written. Back then, it was a place and time where pictures of nude children were actually considered pretty cool. Purely aesthetic, and free of any sort of eroticism. Because the idea of someone use children as fapping material is completely incomprehensible, sex and kid are in completely different worlds. Of course, they're wrong, but you get the idea.

Basically, girl in this subgenre is truly innocent, yet seem to unconsciously seduce the man at time. She isn't, really, it's simply that such pure little girl have no idea how risky her action is, "sex" isn't even in her dictionary. So when in really hot day, she won't think twice before take off her cloths and reveal her lingeries - not because she want to seduce the man, she isn't even aware that her small figure in lingeries can turn the man on, she even has no idea what is "turn him on" mean. Of course, regardless of her intention, it turn lolicon on, and depend on how much prick he is, he will either rape or seduce her. Yes, it isn't alway rape, although I think that it's most likely case, and he has to fool the girl in some degree even when it isn't rape (ask her if she want to playing "a game" where it's actually him perform foreplay, ask if she want "a tasty lolipop" in his pant, etc).

(I remmeber this bit is updated in compilation book, Alice's big bro will see her being act in more seductive way, even if she never intend one)

Now, in typical of this subgenre, the girl will lost her innocent at certain degree (now she know what sex is, a girl who was fooled into having sex may still retain innocent attitude, but it clearlt not as pure as it was, and I don't think I need to say about rape victim). But with Alice's memory reset, she can be as pure as before, until she complete her journey to Wonderland, that is.