Talk:Lilim/@comment-25817038-20150430184956/@comment-25817038-20150501192646

I suppose it's all in the details of the situation. Obviously it's not right to outright rape a person, that's pretty obvious in itself and I'm pretty sure everyone on this wiki would agree with you there, however you have to look at the intent of the Lilim in the image here. The Lilim was reading a hentai/erotic novel and got really turned on by it, soooo she comes to her husband(the guy she loves and trusts) and has him play out the part of the antagonist that forces himself on her. It's pretty evident that this Lilim wants it, probably even more so than her husband, and from the small sub-text below, it's not like she wants him to outright rape her while she yells at him to stop - she probably just wants to have her husband give her some lovin while she's tied up is all.

And to be quite frank about this - if you love your Lilim wife, like you seriously honest-to-god love the woman, and she starts sharing her fantasies with you, wanting you to help her live them out in bed... and it just happens to be she wants her arms bound up and you to *not* ask permission for anything during sex, are you REALLY going to tell her no?

That or consider this, there might be a reason she wants her partner to be forceful(besides her simply liking it) - Take the Lilim in my fanfic for an example. She butts heads with the main character on more than one occasion, and at times, is at risk of losing her relationship with him because of it. Being extraordinarily adept at sex and reading people's personalities and emotions, she uses her skills to manipulate her partner into wanting to take her without her consent(though she wants it anyway). Why does she do it? Well because Adam, her lover, is pissed off over something she did, and she knows better than he does, that this would calm him down enough to the point that while they may have argued and been pissed, their relationship will not have ended at least.

Again, I get you don't like the whole rape thing - and many will agree, it's obviously not right to bind up a man/woman and force yourself on them. But in some cases like this one, it's nothing more than rape-play; still consentual between both parties, it's just that there's just a little less lovey-dovey going on and a few more ropes and handcuffs involved.