Talk:Dragon/@comment-39280634-20191013202731/@comment-27950421-20191014032120

@Timelord You copy and pasted the preface, that isn't even part of the actual Encyclopedia Entry. Here is the first sentence of the Encyclopedia Entry, "The highest level of monsters, combining a strong body with high intelligence." and here is the third sentence of the actual Encyclopedia Entry, "They have been titled as “rulers of the earth” because of the enormous power they possess." Here's a quote from you just because I'm feeling snarky, "I just copied/pasted that word for word so it's assuredly correct." I suggest you read more thoroughly the next time you try that one with me. Contrary to what Aro has said, I am one of the best when it comes to research and methodology within thought experiments that you will find on this site, it is just that few people have any respect for those skills.

The "Rulers of the Earth" could be interpreted in multiple ways, though I feel the elemental aspect would be inaccurate given that dragons could be easily connected to multiple elements, their flight putting then up to wind and their firey breath and temperament making their elemental affinity rather obvious in that regard. Personally, given how they show resistance to the demon lord, definitely don't side with the gods, I would say it's more of a matter planes of existence and less elemental stuff. The "Earth" being referred to here seems to be the mortal realm not actual dirt and soil. Dragons are "Rulers of the Earth" just as the Gods are "Rulers of the Heavens" or Demons are "Rulers of Hell." Though that's more my interpretation then anything that has been verified but it seems more accurate to the nature of dragons than saying it's the earth element.

Now, my saying that a dragon could potentially break a Lilim's polymorph spell isn't a commentary on the power level of dragons in comparison to lilim. In terms of raw magical might, a lilim could overwhelm a dragon, though I think that it wouldn't be without a bit of effort. I am referring to the fact that transformative spells tend be easily brocken in most fantasy settings when used especially against something like a dragon.

As for Lilim/Baphomet/DL/DL's Husband vs a dragon. The Demon Lord and her husband are effectively gods within the setting. Lilim, being their offspring are Demi-gods or Lesser Gods at a minimum. And Baphomets are among the highest level of demon and even then, them being able to beat a dragon outright is debatable and I feel that fight is more of a toss up than the Baphomet being the likely victor. I've already had one discussion of how I think that dragons are stronger than Baphomets with Flodoomable (for some weird reason he thinks Baphomets are stronger than Lilim...), I'm not going to get into it a second time.