Talk:Salamander/@comment-96.246.82.141-20160707164849/@comment-28144855-20160714201350

DE as it is now didn't exist before the current DL, so the monsters had to rely on their innate physical traits. And as they were transformed imto Mamono, some of their traits remained (mostly for perverts, though). Most of the old monsters weren't even humanoid to begin with, so DE plays a much bigger role you give it credit for, since it is canon fact that says more DE equals more power, speed etc. If two Mamono with equal ammount of DE clashes in battle, the winner would be decided by skill I presume, so it is 50:50. Also, a Baphomet is a loli, non armored Mamono, yet due to high amount of energy is physically stronger than most Mamono.

Kinetic force can be focused on a small spot to maximize the effectiveness of each hit with less energy invested. You can also go for vital spots, weak spots, hit the same spot over and over, the possibilities are vast, if you know what you are doing.

Did this guy shattered his hand: https://youtu.be/6XxmlnFmJUM

If he can do it I bet a Hinezumi can too, and with utmost ease, but so can the Salamander. You may or may not know there is a striking technique, that retract ones punch right after strike, precisely as not to hurt oneself.

There are a lot of statements about DE used offensively, as well as defensively and in even more ways (healing, additional protection, spell casting...) scattered all over the place. Baphy, Incubus, DL and many other profiles have examples, it is just that most people don't pay attention to that ( I can't blame them, the girls other abilities and techniques is what this world is all about!) yet they are there.

As I said, the fight could go both ways. I stay behind my statement, IT DEPEND ON THE CLASHING INDIVIDUALS how the battle would turn out.