Talk:Lilim/@comment-25405125-20150101083353/@comment-25035274-20150113133707

You can state over and over that it's a utopia if you like. That will not, however, change the fact that it is pretty obviously not a utopia.

The term "Utopia" basically refers to a society that is as close to perfect as is humanly possible. In the MGE's specific case, it would basically be used to refer to a world of infinite joy and pleasure, wherein no one ever gets hurt. However, the world of the MGE is not like that.

There is still constant strife, hardship, pain and bloodshed. The Mamono still have quite some distance to go before they have a fully realized society. The Order still destroys villages and puts mamono and their husbands to the sword.

While KC may not emphasize it in his stories, the setting he's created is still a world of violence and struggles. That means that it uncategorically is not a utopia. It's in a state of flux, and regardless of what you or I claim, we don't actually know what direction he's finally going to take it in. He has, after all, completely changed courses in the past.

You may or may not realize it, but as the setting was originally written, some of the mamono actually consumed souls. Not "Spirit Energy". For proof, look back to the original imp profile. If the sorcerors/magicians/whatever didn't willingly feed them, they would sometimes rape him to death.

So...yeah. You can say it's a utopia all you want. But as it's presently written, it is not a utopia. Maybe it'll become one; maybe it won't.