Talk:The Order/@comment-27004409-20170105044352/@comment-29602226-20170108233555

"Mushrooms (and other DR products): can tame ANY Mamono, but the Hellhound is 'untamable'," 

If I remember it right, the text doesn't say that the Raging Mushroom allows you to "tame" Mamonos, but to "dominate" them.

And the profile of the Hellhound explicitly says that she will allow a man who attacks her to rape her, but it won't tame her, and once you think you have defeated her, she attacks and dominate you in turn.

The way I see it, the Raging Mushroom allows you to rape the Hellhound, but afterwards she won't be tamed; she will rape you in turn.

"Does DR silver monsterize or just sap energy and renders unconscious..."

It saps energy, but women who are sapped that way are monsterized very easily, and the blades can be enchanted so they both sap SE and inject DE.

"Brainwashing or not: In the main setting it is definitely brainwashing, no matter how you sugarcoat it, while his side material says otherwise without any proof or anything."

True. That's the reason I said I would remove the long-term brainwashing effect of DE on men and make monsterizations rarer.

''"Mamono charms: Is it fabricated love or not, because altering emotions sure seems like it even if he said it is not the case?" ''

It is fabricated love. And that's the reason I said I would make the Mamono rely more on their natural beauty and seduction skills rather than on magical charm.

''In short the canon itself is a giant mess of plotholes, misinformations, inconsistencies and contradictions... No wonder why there are constant arguments in the fanbase, as the setting truly can be interpreted in endless number of ways... Some rules/laws of the universe/setting should be more ironed out and finalized. ''

I don't think he will do so, because he priorizes MGEs as an inspiration for porn rather than MGEs as a viable fantasy setting. If he leaves a lot stuff open to interpretation, everybody can pick their favourite headcannon and create the stories that suit them better.

That said, I think the brainwashing and mind control part is quite clearly canon, and when KC says things like "oh, no, it's not brainwashing, DE is just helping them express their repressed true feelings!" what he really means is "look if you don't like brainwashing just forget about it and fap already!"