Thread:LightningS9/@comment-26288702-20170624190607/@comment-31049256-20170625161230

Well with the war, KC's lore on the Chaos Demons specifies that they weren't sealed until the age of the former demon lord (the one preceeding the current age) and the Chief God and the others have been around since the beginning of the cycle of the rise and fall of Demon Lords at least since they've (the gods) always had a hand in raising the Hero that would slay the Demon Lord of that age. Those facts bring up the problem of if they (the Old Ones) could've hijacked the Cycle because they are classified as monsters, why didn’t they?

With that in mind I think having both Vivictus and the Beast involved is fair, since it effectively puts an end to the conflict the way you made it, while simultaneously keeping the important parts of my lore from being altered away from what I need them to be (and if the beast is Cerberus or an even older kin to Hound it would make sense for how he and Vivictus acted towards each other as well)

For Mnemonia, she herself will never be a mamono (since now she's like Oedon from Bloodborne lore, a being of energy that exists beyond everything else, ignoring the world, but capable of influencing it if her attention can be gained) and her old body can't be a mamono right away, my characters Jack and Xavier's story needs her body to stay non-mamonoized for a time up until a certain point.

Kinda like how Amarta resists being turned into a mamono, Mnemonia's body is for the moment more powerful than the Maou, but given time now that the body has stopped getting stronger the Maou's power will overpower it and she will be mamono-ized.

And Arden isn't necessarily against all mamono specifically, even if he uses the fact that his men are to further his goals. His true enemy is the Maou and her family as well a few others. He's just willing to end everything to end them which includes men as well as mamono. Not that his men know, nobody knows he's not just Conrad Wulf 2.0 with a Chaos flair to his actions.