Thread:HoundTheDestroyer93/@comment-25808351-20191211055508/@comment-25808351-20191215203807

Well they still try Jester. I’ve heard all the dopes out there make their arguments that Joker glorifies “Incels” (which honestly I didn’t know what that fuckin meant till yesterday) and teaches angry boys to go out and commit crimes or that it pushes a hardcore socialist message, that the poor need to overthrow their wealthy overlords.

What a bunch of yucks.

Neither argument is sound when you view this movie proper. I’d go as far to say if you see this movie in either light, you’re politically driven and wouldn’t know what a good movie is, if it came up and fucked your ma in front of ya.

Joker doesn’t encourage “incels” to be violent. This movie shows that anyone can be marginalized, trampled and forgotten. We live in a harsh world, and even in the greatest of countries a person can struggle and be cast aside.

Arthur in the movie tries so hard to be a good person, wanting genuine human interactions and affection, but he’s constantly torn down and forced to live an unfulfilling life with zero remorse to his situation. If only he had somebody who actually cared about him, maybe he wouldn’t have gone bonkers. So many times you see him try to be a man who makes people smile, but always shot down. Only when he creates chaos does he gain recognition.

And the other dumb argument: “Oh this movie hardcore leftist poop, it shit on capitalism and wealthy people.” Ugh, enough of that too.

The movie does ride a plot built around class war. So I understand the argument, however if you aren’t blinded by political fervor, you’ll notice how the “protesters” in the movie are depicted vs the rich. I won’t speak to the plot more, but rich characters in the movie aren’t given any moments of clarity. We don’t know if they’re actually bad people or if they are genuinely good. They’re simply their like the rest of us. (Aside from those asshats on the subway)

Yet the “protesters” who fight for the cause are depicted as violent. Lashing out at others because of what they don’t have. The protesters in the movie use the Joker’s cause to spread chaos and hate, they aren’t truly committed to making things better. They just want a reason to strike back at the people they dislike.

Joker is a movie that shows a man reach his lowest point and ends up on top when he flips the system upside down. It was dark, it was harsh and I fuckin loved it.