Talk:Trumpart/@comment-29325824-20161218105913/@comment-29602226-20161218205023

''What if you cant get up?That would cause alot of problems.I have an image in my head of a monster trying to hump a man who has this blank kill me now exspression on his face and he is just limp as fuck.Its hilarious! ''

Won't happen. Demonic Energy will give the man a boner regardless of anything else...

''No, I mean, I know that Mamono and humans cannot stop feeling otherworldly pleasure if they have sex with each other. What I meant was, what if the QoH chooses a "punishment" that the man and/or his wife really don't like and outright refuse to go along with it. Even the QoH has to have some heart.''

Well, I don't think the QoH would do that. It is implied that most Wonderland Mamono are enthusiastic participants in her games.

''I mean, it has been implied if not stated that even the ungodly pleasure Mamono give men cannot overpower their personal preferences if they are too incompatible. Like if a Mamono represents a fetish that a man really does not like, she won't attack him because she knows he won't be happy no matter how much effort she puts into the sex. Not to mention that some Mamono let men go even after rape, suggesting that if the man really does not love that Mamono, no DE or pleasure can change his mind. ''

I'm not sure that interpretation is canon. KC has said that Mamono can sense if a man is homosexual and tend to not fall in love with them because they know they will become Alps (they will still rape them so they can become Alps, but they won't select them as husbands), but besides that, I don't think he has ever said that Mamonos leave alone men who aren't attracted to them.

The books explicitly say that  DE turns pain into pleasure, that it removes any negative reaction to sex and erases any moral values that are against any sexual practice that a Mamono demands from a man, and that the mind of men are changed so they find the bodies of the Mamono who rape them beautiful and alluring even if they are giant bugs.