Talk:Gods/@comment-72.233.174.166-20141017162448/@comment-213.119.32.191-20141017190152

@ Anon 72.233.169.63 - You're not being disrespectful at all, we're just having a healthy discussion. See, I know that Incubi don't change much from humans, but I interpret the Monster Ecology page differently.

While Incubi may keep their human culture and morals, their Mamono wives don't. And that just doesn't work. It's made pretty clear that humans will eventually be forced to conform to mamono standards. They can't choose to become Incubi, as that happens by having sex with mamono. And that's something humans don't have a choice in. Mamono will rape the first man they come across and declare him her husband, no matter what the man's wishes may be.

Incubi must be as horny as mamono. They must accept Mamono's natural depravity. It even says mamono tend to do depraved things simply because humans consider them depraved. And it even says mamono are so lazy and hedonistic they tend not to put any effort in any potential jobs they might have. Niether can Incubi do any jobs they want to do, because Mamono can want to have sex with him nonstop for days. Likewise, we humans consider rape a horrible thing, but to mamono there's no difference between rape and consentual sex. So if a Mamono is horny, she will have sex with her husband, no matter what his wishes may be. And quite frankly, I don't consider that love. That's why I hate the Monster Ecology article, because it makes mamono look more depraved that I'd like.

...Sorry, I'm ranting here. The point is that no matter how well intentioned the DL is, she doesn't allow humans to choose. She changes them how much she wants to without ever considering their opinion in the matter or even making small compromises. It doesn't matter if humans are happy with mamono wives, they were forced into such happiness. They are forever a prisoner of the Succubus's (and therefore Mamono's) lifestyle.