Talk:Demon/@comment-71.59.226.247-20150829221311/@comment-24851346-20150830201836

The Demon Realm can only be really considered good at a very generous definition. They use Rape, Brainwashing, and Incest as practically state policies. Now your typical monster outside of the Demon Realm seems to behave largely based on their upbringing, Holstaurs and Kobolds (domesticated breeds) seem to have very Human values, and are very submissive to Human rule, and more organized breeds like Lizardmen seem to have more normal courting practices (they don't jump any man they see, but will relentlessly pursue the man they have decided on, while others are willing to use seduction or rape to get their man.

But on the other hand, the Order isn't that clean either. At the most generous they are severely misguided. 'Domesticated Monsters' are treated either as slaves (and we know there is a healthy slave trade) or as second class citizens, purely on racial standards. They don't seem to question their doctrine much, and have declared various faiths heresy (such as the Elementalist Faith), compared to how many of our modern religious institutions deal with Heresy (plenty of splits, but not many heretics). But most importantly, lets remember what the Order's endgoal is, a return to the norm. The norm being where the monsters instinct for rape is replaced with one of slaughter. Very likely the members of the Order aren't trying to take down the Demon Realm with that intent, but that is the reality of what will happen. All Monster couples could end up killing off their husbands because of that.

At the end of the day its not a black and white conflict, its a grey and grey one. The main difference that the Demon Lord's endgoal is much more an attractive option than the Order's (at least in my mind since I think that rape is preferrable to not being alive any more), and the Radical Faction is lets remember, Radicals, a darker shade of grey.