Thread:Jekkers/@comment-12776-20151201063609/@comment-24169511-20151209063934


 * While I guess using "actual title pending" instead of "title translation pending" can be overlooked (it's misleading, and fact that he's allow to post as instead of gone through discussion then has you post it - like how we did with Alice's Tales - seem wrong, I guess it isn't a big deal).

I don't see how it's misleading. You're arguing semantics at this point and it's not adding any value to the article. It will get translated and updated as soon as someone who can do so comes along (Which it did when you translated it for us).

I'm not going to force him to go through me or anyone else on staff because that's not what Wikis are about. Illias has the right to post and makes changes as he sees fit but he's already been given a 3-day suspension and he is aware that any more intentional and malicious modifications to the site will not go unpunished. Him adding "actual title pending" is not pin any way shape or form malicious.


 * What's truly bad is descript the mamono in vias tone as "villainous". Now I saw all of sample pages on Kurobinega, and yes she's indeed take the man by surprise, so it's likely to be rape too . BUT in hentai, and especially MGE (as seen in Stealth's doujinshi), just because it start as rape doesn't mean the character is "villain".

You're right, this was a mistake on his part but it was very quickly modified to a neutral tone. The great thing about Wikis is that everyone is free to contribute information and anyone else is free to correct bad info. This was an example of Wiki doing exactly what it was intended to do.


 * I say Ilias shouldn't be allow to write on main article anymore, or at least need to gone through the staff first.

And to that I say no. Again, that is complete opposite to how Wikis are meant to function. The freedom to contribute is what drives this and all other Wikis to success and cutting someone off from that just because they have a sketchy record isn't appropriate in my opinion. Certainly worth giving all his edits extra scrutiny, but not an outright ban from posting before review. If he makes dumb edits, they'll get reverted and he'll be suspended again, should it come out that they were intentionally malicious.


 * This one is just recent, but he has done it before. This is one that I removed from Spirit Energy article, and we only become aware of it because an anonymous confused it as fact in a discussion.

Again, this is how Wiki's are supposed to function. People make bad edits, others come along and fix them.


 * And who know where else he hide crap like this among the bulk of text?

Like I said, all of that is just a matter of going through his edit history and reviewing the changes he's made. Since we've all got our eyes on him, he'd be hard pressed to get away with anymore nonsense.


 * Here's even more ugly one, here is when I removed his synthesis (but written as fact in "References" section), and he sneak it in later while revert a vandal edit.

That was a shitty thing to do but you fixed it, and he was given a 3-day suspension a few weeks after for something unrelated.


 * It's clear that he has problem to separate his opinion from raw information, and isn't above underhand tactic to keep it in the article. (In fact, the "villainous predatory rapist" part would be fine if it's in discussion, the problem is that it is in the article.) So again, I suggest that he shouldn't be allow to write on main article anymore, or at least need to gone through the staff first.

Again, I'll pass on that idea. I'm not going to lie and say I handled him perfectly. I definitely made the mistake of giving him several free passes because of how much work he did but that has come and gone. He was given his first suspensions a few weeks ago and has been relatively calm since. Adding a single bit of nonsense to one page does not justify segregating him from the general population forever.


 * So there will be no action taken? Again?

No, because nothing he's done has been extreme enough to warrant a 5-day suspension.


 * Would you consider merge the fanon wiki with this one then? It isn't so much different now, just that you give the privilege to add fanon is given to single person.

I think your judgement has been clouded by your personal feelings against him. He makes a single bias edit to the new page and you fly into an essay long tirade against him. You've been incredibly disrespectful and your snarky quips have only fueled the fire. I welcome any and all discussion but if you are so emotionally charged that you can't participate without being snide, then maybe it's time you took a step back and recomposed yourself.