Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-30741044-20181012234344/@comment-29602226-20181021104554

Beyondrapture wrote: Anything to do with mandatory mental switcheroos is very iffy as far as I'm concerned, both in the human-monster and monsters doing 180s in personality after getting a good dicking flavour.

For example, the Dragon. proud, domineering, baddest bitch in the room, any room. Cool, fantastic, as it should be. Dragon gets fucked a few times by a strong bloke now she just gags for cock all the time.....say fucking what?

Hey, at least the Dragon was born that way...

But a Lilim explicitly can turn a strong, brave warrior woman into a cowardly Cockatrice, and a gentle, nice, caring woman into an Amazoness slaver... There is no way KC can deny that is a serious personality change. KC can't claim that's just "removing complexes and prejudices and letting their true desires emerge...".

I mean, the proud warrior was supposed to secretly wish to become a coward? The gentle, nice person was supposed to secretly wish to beat and humiliate her loved ones (because, you know, Amazoness do that to the men they love, not to people they hate...).

And mind you, KC has explicitly said that, while some Lilim will try to find a mamono that fits well the woman's human personality, most won't bother with that and will pick a mamono species on a whim, even if that means radically altering the woman's personality...

About Incubi, the few explicit canon examples have their minds being turned inside out. The guy in KC's Wonderland manga (the one where a Chesire corrupts a man) turns into a mindless animal guided by instinct (there is no mistake about it, we read his mind, we see the change from his point of view); Elt/You becomes somebody who will happily have sex with little girls he considered his little sisters until recently...

KC has started to make some changes to make the setting less grimdark: He has said that human women give birth to more male babies in the MGEverse, so human women aren't disadvanteged because of the mamono. He has said that the mamono of the Demon Army respect human marriage and won't rape and kidnap men who love their human partners and families, going so far as to release them so they can go back home. He has created the Country of the Three Souls in the Mist Continent, a human supremacist empire that keeps submissive mamono, and men who become incubi there remain a part of society and remain in control over mamono. He has created several Sabbath branches (Runya Runya, Greilia, Marune) who are led by basically nice people who aren't overly obsessed about sex.

He has hinted that mamono can sense the desires of human men (but, as far as I know, he still hasn't said that mamono won't  assault men who aren't into them... the entries of Girtablilu and Manticore indeed says that they enjoy men's terror...).

KC should get rid of monsterization for the most part, of the mental changes of incubization, make Demon Energy far less corrupting, and confirm that mamono will keep only men who are into them...

Beyondrapture wrote: On a similar topic, Demon lord decides she likes human men, now all monsters are hardwired that way. hmmm....

The old monsters have gone extinct, replaced by cosmetic variants of the Succubus race, and they are Succubi whose values have switched to those of the DL.

If she wins, human women will go extinct too, replaced by Succubi, too. And to some extent, human men will be gone too, because only one kind of man will keep existing, the flexibility and diversity that makes humans what they are gone...