Talk:Royal Makai/@comment-37532776-20181121203015/@comment-10429980-20181122163713

About it being an "out of context" problem, wouldn't the same apply to the invaders? It seems hypocritical to say the monsters would be OP if they immediately knew how to deal with beings in a crossover, but wouldn't it be just as unbalanced to have the invaders be able to know about and shrug off everything the monsters do?

As far as I'm concerned, in general if you're doing a crossover then whoever goes to another universe is generally going to have to follow the rules of that universe. In the MGE universe if you are alive you have mana, and all the things that come with it, and thus any living thing to go into the MGE world would have to to some degree follow those rules. By the same token, it makes sense that if monsters went to another world then they'd have to follow that reality's rules. But that's just me, its not like we can say there is a "realistic" option given we have no way of testing such a scenario in the real world where we only have access to one reality and no idea how we would or wouldn't function in another reality. Honestly, most crossover stories and ideas when different universes are involved just give me a headache as we can often times only wildly speculate on how different powers would/should interact, who would beat who, etc. Often times it only works when the setting places the crossover characters in a world where they are all toned down or up enough to be more or less equal and thus avoid those issues (as in a lot of crossover fighting games).

And Aro, its been well established that the monsters could have "won" by now if they wanted to. However, the Mamono Lord does not want to actively conquer the Order, only ever being aggressive in emergencies. She prefers to be slow and methodical, letting her power and influence build through more peaceful means. Even the extremists usually take a lot of time to minimize casualties on the occassions that they do aggressively conquer.

We also don't know enough about the MGE planet to say that it could or couldn't be destroyed like that. This is a fantasy world, for all we know their "universe" functions quite differently from ours, much as a lot of ancient mythology treats the universe and Earth quite differently from how we understand it today.

Lastly, I question the assertion you have to make your characters "doofuses" to be threatened. Shirokuto, Saphirette and Runya Runya are all respectable (if quirky), intelligent characters. It could be just as easily seen as an insult to their intelligence if you have your characters overcome them with extreme ease.

And on that note why are we assuming these intelligent characters would even want to fight to begin with?