Talk:Demon/@comment-71.59.226.247-20150829221311/@comment-25035274-20150917192026

@Enriyu

"also changing yourself so that another race that has nothing to do with you in the first place and only now needs you because they changed themselve without your consent is not genocide its suicide."

Changing yourself is not genocide, no. I misread your statement. I thought you were trying to change how the mamono work.

"Sorry party you already put a genocide under 'bulding a wall' "

No, I put a "genocide" under building a wall (in this case, a super-powerful magical barrier that nothing can ever pass through because humans clearly have that level of magical power in the MGE) along with what looked like experimentation on sapient beings. Under just building a wall (the SPMBTNCEPTBHCHTLOMPITMGE) I put a "lolwut?" Had you just said, "Build a big fucking wall," instead of, "use greater magic than humans have to build a totally cray-cray mystical barricade way beyond their capabilities," I wouldn't even have "lolwut?"ed.

If the Order were seeking ways to seal themselves away from the mamono, there'd be no issue at all. There's clearly plenty of other humans who're all too happy to provide a feast for mamono, so the Order could easily have their little enclave of safety while all the happy monster lovers all the world over let their freak flags fly.

Problem is, that's not what the Order does. The Order seeks to actively exterminate mamono. In other words, genocide.

@Altom

The thing is, the Order do have other options. They do not have to aggressively leave their territories to slaughter everything in sight. They could focus on magical research that over time might actually give them the ability to create the magical barrier Enriyu was talking about.

Would it take time? Yes. But the Order have time. Outside of the relatively small radical faction, stated to be a minority, the average mamono does not really spend its time trying to take over human territory or pursuing rapid expansion. The average mamono spends its time enjoying life with its husband (from KC's own words).

Based on KC's statements of it having been somewhere around 1,000 years or so since the current Demon Lord took control, we can infer that mamono territory expands very slowly, else humanity would have long been overwhelmed. In other words, they (the Order) could have long been working on that barrier. If they had, they'd probably already have it. But they didn't, so they don't.

The Order could have put more effort into genuine defensive measures. They failed to do so. The Order's trying genocide. They're failing at that, evidently making essentially no progress.

The Order is a complete, and utter, failure.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find myself a fluffy mamono and let my freak flag fly.