Talk:Lilim/@comment-78.20.131.40-20150806102304/@comment-25930818-20150807181748

That's some nice mental gymnastics you got there, Kuruni, but I think this one is beyond even your powers of self-deception. There are many, many ways I could pick this apart, but the most obvious seems to be: and they'll turn a sickly, shy little girl who couldn't even talk to men into an amazoness that brazenly rapes men." Which contradicts your premise of ''"But if they don't change, then you get a mighty-looking amazon who start blushing and stammering when she's talking to a boy she has crush on. Now, that's a sight to behold!" quite blatantly. Lilim turns her into an amazoness, the shy girl does'' brazenly rape men, it says so right there.

And if her shy personality has been inverted, that means people actually do change lots when they get monsterized, and it's not just "Oh that was secretly the real them all along" And if lilim-transforms can totally invert personalities, then who's to say that's not what happened to Wilmarina and the Maidens? And suddenly it's not liberation at all, but brain-bulldozing mind control. Which is what I said all along. QED.

I expect your mea culpa on my desk by the end of the day, kthx. :^)