Talk:Lilim/@comment-86.217.77.234-20140712210345/@comment-50.141.109.9-20150210105256

If you're willing to have sex, but you want to go at your own pace and the girl forces you to go faster than you want because she is impatient and ten times stronger than you, is it consensual sex? If you are looking to pick up a hot girl and have sex with her, but instead she uses magic to suspend your free will to do to you what you intended for her to do all along, but she didn't bother to ask, is it consensual sex? Even if she does EXACTLY what you want her to do, the loss of control is what comprises the rape fetish. There's a key difference though, between an actual rape and fetish rape -- like the difference between S&M and real torture, while the loss of control may be real, the intent was always there in advance to lose that control.