Thread:AngryLance/@comment-39280634-20200609090822/@comment-27666783-20200624003139

“Does it exist?"

"Of course it exists. The Order exists. And it is the embodiment of the Order."

"Does it exist in the same way as I exist?"

"You do not exist."

The way I see it, a 'god' in this setting is like a title, a state of existence almost akin to being called a king. King of what? The meta-physical mechanics of the universe are beyond that of the gods, they just simply manifest through them as far as we can tell. It'd be fair to say that the gods are more like really really powerful elementals of an esoteric nature to humans and mamono.

It is good to see were all sharing lore and ideas, I had some god ideas, there are many like it but this one is mine.

The first is the Order, yes that one. I like to imagine the Order not just an organization. But as some sort of humongous, convulsing, endless sprawl of bureaucracy and accountability. Departments upon departments, bureaus upon branches and offices twisting and looping and turning in endless hierarchy. Just an organization so vast in its labyrinthine complexity its is near beyond mortal comprehension to grasp the scope of its existence, the best word to describe it is 'Kafkaesque'.

Even the demi-god like figures only have a brisk understanding of its structure. Where does it begin? Where does it end? Does it even matter? Who is in charge? The Pope? The Cardinals? The Inquisition? All of them? The Order is chaos, and the ironic thing is that it works.

This is why blind loyalty is so important, asking questions does nothing but enter the human into a world of confusion they are not meant to see. Recieving orders from numerous departments, carrying out duties off of laws nobody has seen before, the individual is rendered powerless just by virtue of not even knowing where their place is. A sort of annihilation of the self in a sense, your place is none of your business, now get back to work.

In alot of fascist concepts there is this idea of a 'Living State'. A civic acknowledgement of the collective identity not only as government policy, but a real entity itself. Used to justify totalitarianism, 'right hand does not think for the left hand' sort of thought policing.

This Order is no indiviudal, but it seems to think, calculate, and breathe. When Druella took Lescatie, the Order just... adapted and kept ticking, almost as if it wanted her to seize Lescatie. It is something that goes beyond any individual because it is not for the individual, it is like a collective manifestation of humanity. Something that has survived since time immemorial, always calculating. All with the support of the people to survive.

What else could describe it but a 'god'?

The only ones that do actively understand its goals is the Chief God and Arthur, and the Chief God put restraints on humanity, harnessed the Order, and kept humans in an infinite loop of life and death, almost seeming to contain it. Arthur has resigned that if it cant be contained it must be destroyed.

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The other is Arthur is different, if the Order is the culmination of human collectivism made manifest, Arthur is the culmination of human individualism made manifest. Born a man, reborn to godhood after doing apotheosis with the help of a Lilim 'Morgan Le Fey' Sister. Weren't exactly on speaking terms(being a King within the Order and being a Lilim Sorcerer tends to do that) but after getting mortally wounded, ol' Morgan squashed the beef because her brother was dying.

Now being beyond mortal, he takes the MO of measuring the balance. Mamono more and more are incorporating magic and changing the world to fit them. So, Arthur is changing human physiological makeup to adapt to the world. In this case by making them giant super-strength moumtain men and women.

Dazzle the mamono raiding party with your glistening abs and pulsating muscles on your impeecable eight foot plus human tank ass before making them question their loyalty to the DL by warmly embracing them in a submission hold and whispering in their ear "Blessed are the wayward who wish to be saved".

Thoughts?