Talk:Demon/@comment-71.59.226.247-20150829221311/@comment-193.32.79.27-20150830224746

SAmaster

I fully agree with you, but you forgot one important point. The Order actually has a very good reason to think they are the good guys. Namely if the status quo does not change (again), then monsters will keep breeding so much that eventually humans will be genuinly extinct, and not in the DL's intended way. So the Order is justified in a way to stop Mamono from reproducing like rabbits on viagra (which they would if they could so easily).

Sure the DL intends to do something about that when she can, but her absolutely abysmal leadership and diplomatic skills (and those of her daughters and subjects) prevent the Order from knowing that. It certainly doesn't help that extremists and radicals on the DL's side are pretty much allowed to do whatever they want and their diplomacy consists exclusively of "attack and rape their diplomats nontstop until they agree with us".

Not to mention that if the DL fixes that problem, there is still the problem of mamono popping out babies faster than their husbands can fill them. Which will surely lead to overpopulation which is exactly what the gods feared and tried to prevent.

Plus can you really hold the Order's slavery against them? We all know the Mamono slaves end up on top here.

So yeah. As much as I like them, the DL and Mamono aren't off the hook here. The conflict could be severely lessened if they actually had anything remotely resembling a sense of responsiblity and some self-restraint. But as KC said, they're "hedonists who hate it if morals get in the way of pleasure".

P.S.: I'm all pro mamono, but I'm also being realistic here. I also prefer the domesticated ones as they actually bother to genuinly coexist instead of dominate.