@Ouchmaster5000 Because as someone who looked at far more pornographic stuff as teen myself, to say that I think teens aren't mature enough to handle this one would be hypocritical.
Just because I'm older now doesn't mean I've forgotten or can't imagine myself in a younger persons shoes.
And even if you disagree with me on that, permabanning someone so they can't rejoin as an adult, just because he joined as a teen is still pointlessly cruel.
This is getting out of control here. @Ouchmaster5000, can you just not accept that EmeraldDigimon broke rules and therefore had to be banned? Yes, the ban itself was rather disproportionate, but that can still be fixed.
TL;DR, underage kids (especially with Emerald's lack of maturity) should not be having pornographic discussion with strangers online. If we hadn't banned Emerald it would have been highly unethical from us.
If by fixed, do you mean restore the older posts, and reverse the permaban once he turns 18? That feels like the only remotely reasonable thing to to do.
Personally I'm rather miffed that Ochiverde even gets to stay admin given how disproportionate his reaction was.
I agree with timjer and respect his decision for reporting emerald purely because he was smart enough to cover his bases. The other mod did not need to delete all of his stuff. As to why emerald was perma banned I’m not to sure as I’m not a mod. After a year I think he should be able to come back. I have other views based on what else others have said but I refuse to go into this any further opinion wise than this.
@Ouchmaster5000 EmeraldDigimon did nothing but shown a serious lack of maturity, and then acciddenaly reavealed he was indeed underage.
"reverse the permaban once he turns 18"
How do you do thta? Ask him when he turn 18? Obviously he will tell you he is already old enought. That case work only when the person already stated their age.
Of course teen can alway just not state their age, or Emerald could just create another account and not make the same mistake, but it work just like the warning on a +18 website where you just click a button to proceed : Legally, the staff is doing their part, if there is ever an underage kid here and they are called out for it, they could just say they didn't knew. If there is an underage user and they know about it yet do nothing, then there could have problems.
It's not really written on the rule, because the fandom is not +18 website, so it cannot really be told otherwise here.
From the fandom community guidelines :
"But that nudity should not be the focus of the wiki, nor should it be excessively explicit."
The wikia does not exactly respect that rule, and is really on a thin edge (but so are numerous other wikia).
Also it's fucking common sense that children shouldn't be involved in discussion revolving around sexual theme and fetish.
"I'm rather miffed that Ochiverde even gets to stay admin"
He did only one questionnable descision, wich is deleting his past post, and I think it was to get rid of all his numerous post/dumb questions wich were often unneeded.
Or maybe it's not, I don't know, but hat's not enought to say the staff should be replaced, it's litteraly not a big deal at all.
it's very strange how you talk about the emerald as if it were a 13 or 14 year old child, he's 17 just a year away from maturity. I see your mistake of making a second account but as the team says there is no place in the rules that talks about the prohibition of minors, and as you say before, he is 17 a year or even 6 months until he turns 18 he won't do it. move from the immature you say he was (I hardly saw any posts by him taking out some comments on questions and wwyd so I don't have that much basis on that) to the maturity symbol
The ban for EmeraldDigimon will stay.
He had quite frankly failed to cover up the fact that he was underage, by acting suspiciously. The computer excuse just made it evident.
Since the minimal age for account creation is 13 in any other place than the EEA, I just go with an indefinite ban on underage users unless further evidence is provided(when that no longer would be the case). He could've done so by using the ban appeal form, which can be accessed through the front page.
After being banned, he just created an alt account and came back, which is ban evasion. As such, his ban just became a permaban.
His posts will not be reinstated, as he shouldn't have even made. That is all.
Emerald got banned?
I mean... i'm sure we all got tired of the "What happens if you crap yourself during sex with a mamono" questions (No he didn't ask that exactly but you get the point)
What do you think?